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[dropzone7]

Thanks for the information Athanasios. Maybe I was not clear but I'm actually just using 1080i/72hz on the output. Or trying to rather. Also, the only time I really saw the judder was when I tried to turn 24p on in the Blu Ray player menu. It sends 1080p/60hz just fine, but not 1080p/24.

I see what you mean about the scope movies. I tried selecting 2.35 AR in the menu and it looked like it "turned off" the black borders top and bottom. I have not tried entering custom resolutions just yet but I will certainly play around with this.

[wallace123456]

I throw my $.02 worth into this. And, it is only $.02 worth because I probably am not sure of what I am saying .

No doubt, Gary, Athanasios and Dave have more knowledge than I will ever have. But, here goes.

My set-up is:

Toshiba xa2 -> Pioneer VSX-92TXH -> vp50 -> moome external box -> RGBHV 6pg xtra.

PS3 -> Pioneer VSX-92TXH -> vp50 -> moome external box -> RGBHV 6pg xtra.

Dish HD-DVR -> Pioneer VSX-92TXH -> vp50 -> moome external box -> RGBHV 6pg xtra.

XA2 and PS3 have latest updates. VP50 is ver. 1.00

I have 2 input settings on the 6pg xtra. 1 for 60hz, and 1 for 72hz.

The vp50 is set as: color space = RGB. Format is - user custom setting.

The vp50 has inputs for either 60hz or 72hz.

Whatever the vp50 gets from the Pioneer via the source (ps3, xa2 or dish dvr), it outputs to the moome.

Now, my output is only 720p to the moome.

Everything from the xa2 comes out 60hz. Everything from the Dish DVR comes out 60hz. Everything out of the ps3 is 72hz. (NOTE: When I say everything, I am refering to HD or BD material; no SD.)

Not to highjack the thread, but why do I only get 60hz out from the xa2?

Rex,
I'll go thru the settings on my vp50 if you want to call me. PM sent.

wallace

[VideoGrabber]

Wallace,
> VP50 is ver. 1.00 <

Any reason you haven't upgraded the firmware to the latest release version (v1.07)? I'm sure they must have added and fixed quite a bit of stuff in 7 revs.

[Nashou66]

[Gary M.]

HD-DVD was authored 1080p/24, but the Toshiba players never truly took that and output it without conversions, the XA2 for example took the 1080p/24 turned it into 1080i, then deinterlaced to 1080p/60 then converted to 1080p/24, the result is not as good as BD players

you want to use 1080i output on Toshiba HD-DVD players, that is the least amount of conversions going on, a high-end processor like the DVDO will make a perfect 24p from that so no worries if you need 72/48 etc. from your scaler output

-Gary

[wallace123456]

[wallace123456]

[Nashou66]

Thanks for the clarification gary , i knew it was something like that.

Athanasios

[dropzone7]

[wallace123456]

Ok, so I undated the vp50 (what a pain in the ass; I have at least 150 cables of all types, but could I find a db9 to db9 in under 2 hours? hell no!!!). But, I still have the xa2 coming into the vp50 at 60hz.

Rex,
What troubles are you having?

wallace

Pic below is the XA2:


Pic is from PS3:

[Gary M.]

Wallace, see if you can get the PS3 to send YPbPr to the VP50(most likely 444 I think), the conversion to RGB should only be done at the output end of the VP50, allowing sources to send that results in sub par pix

-Gary

[dropzone7]

Don, thanks for taking the time to post the screenshots. I'm at version 1.04 and will probably update tonight to 1.07 as you have. I have been gone all day so I'm just getting back in. The troubles I'm having are with sending 1080p/24 from my Panasonic BD30 Blu Ray player. The VP50 confirms it's being sent but the judder makes the otherwise great looking image unwatchable. I'm hoping that the firmware makes a difference.

[wallace123456]

Do you have a setting in the vp50 for 72hz output? Have you built a setting in the nec for 72hz to match the input?

My vp50 worked fine at ver. 1.0 on blue ray (ps3) source.

My problem is getting 1080p/24hz output from the xa2 player. But from Gary is saying, that aint going to happen.

I'm still confused (as usual)....

wallace

[dropzone7]

[Gary M.]

Rex, I think the 24p input issue is a bug in the VP50 firmware if I remember correctly, update and see how it goes, remember a update wipes clean your settings

as I suspected, most satellite cable boxes default to RGB output and there is nothing you can do, so that is what you got

Wallace, you don't want 24p from the XA2, I think the best output on the XA2 is actually 1080p/60, then you need to turn on Prep on the VP50 to get 1080i, the Toshiba players are a mess, the 24p output is not true, it is made inside the player

on something like the A2 Rex has 1080i is the best and would be on the XA2 as well but the unit again goes thru a long process to output 1080i, try 1080p/60 but make sure you engage prep on the vp50

I should point this out strongly, do not use any DVDO scaler without the latest firmware, DVDO pretty much stops when they get everything working correctly, before that is a crap shoot and problems WILL occur

-Gary

[dropzone7]

I'm updating to firmware 1.07 as I type this. Fingers crossed that it does something for my judder problem.

[wallace123456]

[dropzone7]

[AnalogRocks]

Your picture's looking good. I always wondered if it was worth getting a scaller. This one looks pretty good.

[AnalogRocks]

Your picture's looking good. I always wondered if it was worth getting a scaller. This one looks pretty good.

[dropzone7]