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Clarence
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | I'm liking this. Can't wait to see the results.  |
This is my only concern...
| amazon review wrote: | | you must have a fast computer to use this device and its programs, I have a dual core 3.4 gig Intel, 2gigs of ram, 2 - 500 sata HDD and had to buy a nvidia 7600 512 meg video card to get this up to speed and at the fastest bitrate 13,500 I cant do anything else on the computer, but this is the problem with Hi def, its power hungry, now I can finally put my hi def movies of all 6 star wars and 3 lord of the rings on DVD for 1080i blu ray playback |
All of my PC's are a couple of years old. I'm not sure if the CPU/graphics power is required for hi-quality HD capture, if if it just means I'll have a longer wait if I need to edit/retranscode/playback the H.264 files.
I'm only concerned about getting a top quality capture... once I get it to disc I'm fine.
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overclkr
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Clarence wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | I'm liking this. Can't wait to see the results. |
This is my only concern...
| amazon review wrote: | | you must have a fast computer to use this device and its programs, I have a dual core 3.4 gig Intel, 2gigs of ram, 2 - 500 sata HDD and had to buy a nvidia 7600 512 meg video card to get this up to speed and at the fastest bitrate 13,500 I cant do anything else on the computer, but this is the problem with Hi def, its power hungry, now I can finally put my hi def movies of all 6 star wars and 3 lord of the rings on DVD for 1080i blu ray playback |
All of my PC's are a couple of years old. I'm not sure if the CPU/graphics power is required for hi-quality HD capture, if if it just means I'll have a longer wait if I need to edit/retranscode/playback the H.264 files.
I'm only concerned about getting a top quality capture... once I get it to disc I'm fine. |
Clarence,
The capture is all done in the box. It's transcoded in the box and "passed" through the USB to the PC as a .TS file.
As far as the playback, use the PS3 or the 360.
From what I understand, Arcsoft Total Media Extreme (software that comes it) can convert to Windows Media 9HD at variable bit rates, so no playback issues.
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overclkr
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Clarence wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | I'm liking this. Can't wait to see the results. |
This is my only concern...
| amazon review wrote: | | you must have a fast computer to use this device and its programs, I have a dual core 3.4 gig Intel, 2gigs of ram, 2 - 500 sata HDD and had to buy a nvidia 7600 512 meg video card to get this up to speed and at the fastest bitrate 13,500 I cant do anything else on the computer, but this is the problem with Hi def, its power hungry, now I can finally put my hi def movies of all 6 star wars and 3 lord of the rings on DVD for 1080i blu ray playback |
All of my PC's are a couple of years old. I'm not sure if the CPU/graphics power is required for hi-quality HD capture, if if it just means I'll have a longer wait if I need to edit/retranscode/playback the H.264 files.
I'm only concerned about getting a top quality capture... once I get it to disc I'm fine. |
Oh yeah, one more thing. That guy from Amazon did NOT have his PC setup properly. That kind of horsepower should be able to run .H264 like butter........
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Clarence
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OK, order placed. I'll start a new thread when it gets here.
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greg_mitch
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Still, I'm not convinced that HD movie streaming or download is going to put as big of a dent in BD as Dave and some others seem to think. I know it'll do well in some of the big cities with awesome broadband, but here in Nowhere, IA, I have mo choice of the evil cable company with their 5-10 mbps service, or 1.5 mbps DSL. I can't imagine the HD movies are going to work well for anybody but folks with a 10mbps+ broadband connection... How many people is that? 10% of the population? Even that?
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10% of all people? 10% of people with broadband?
I would bet that lots of people who have netflix and an xbox 360 will have decent broadband. I don't think you really need 10meg but I might try to find out. I think I get around 7meg right now.
I already pay 13.99 a month for BBonline 2 at a time. I might switch to netflix for 14.99 with BR unlimited plus $50 a year for gold (maybe less if I can find some on ebay or whereever) so about $20 a month for two at a time and unlimited streaming HD. Not bad if you ask me.
The 2 channel audio is a big deal breaker though...
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Person99
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BTW there are no Sony titles available for streaming on this service..... i wonder why?  |
Yes, Sony will keep their titles out of services like this trying to bully people into BD adoption. But it will not work and they will be forced to cave just like they did with Beta and VHS.
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emdawgz1
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does anyone remember the website "Bert is Evil"???
I swear one day Dave should do a Sony is Evil website....
Y'know ..... The aids virus was invented by Sony in an attempt at mind control.... it was spread thru walkman sales.....
Did you know that OBL records ALL of his messages w/ Sony hardware? ant that soon he will be issuing them in HD on a B/R disc???
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Person99
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| emdawgz1 wrote: |
I swear one day Dave should do a Sony is Evil website.... |
I don't need to:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullshit
| emdawgz1 wrote: | | Y'know ..... The aids virus was invented by Sony in an attempt at mind control.... it was spread thru walkman sales..... |
But, I don't think Sony is "evil". I think we as consumers "vote" with out dollars. I think as a consumer it is in your best interest to "vote" against Sony for several reasons.
But, back to my comments in this thread, there was no "Sony hating" rhetoric (I didn't say, "only buy HD VOD because Sony sucks", just opinions about what would happen in the future of HD VOD and BD. There was a smart a$$ comment that if my predictions are correct, BD will have been a waste of money for Sony as have been many of their other market failures--which is a correct statement (since it is predicated upon the correctness of my prediction).
My opinions are only based upon the reactions, opinions and desires of those around me in my little real life community. And among those HD VOD is by far the preferred technology with several understanding that the quality of BD may indeed be better, but the value the convenience and accessibility of "acceptable" quality HD VOD. I think these folks are very representative of the general population. You may disagree--that is the "fun" of the forums.
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WanMan
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I'm not sure why anyone finds this surprising. When Sony started buying movie studios what did you think they were doing it for? You own something to control something.
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emdawgz1
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| WanMan wrote: | | I'm not sure why anyone finds this surprising. When Sony started buying movie studios what did you think they were doing it for? You own something to control something. |
Umm i think i stated that ... in another thread. Sony has the largest film catalog... in the world, you paid for it, might as well use it.
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WanMan
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All I am saying is that if I owned Sony I would be simply weighing the costs for the potential lost revenue through PS3 video transport to that of revenue earned through Netflix+360 transport. Its a business decision we only suspect is based on emotion.
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dropzone7
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I spent like an hour last night getting all the updates for this new Xbox interface and then selecting and customizing a character. Looks pretty cool but I didn't try out the Netflix thing yet.
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| WanMan wrote: | | All I am saying is that if I owned Sony I would be simply weighing the costs for the potential lost revenue through PS3 video transport to that of revenue earned through Netflix+360 transport. Its a business decision we only suspect is based on emotion. |
Nah, i think i'd do the opposite... once sony gets its online presence fixed, it cuts its own deal w/ netflix, or its own service...
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Person99
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| WanMan wrote: | | All I am saying is that if I owned Sony I would be simply weighing the costs for the potential lost revenue through PS3 video transport to that of revenue earned through Netflix+360 transport. Its a business decision we only suspect is based on emotion. |
Ah, but you have to remember, Sony (like Microsoft) takes the "bully" approach to these things. The absolute last thing Sony ever ever ever wants to do is compete based upon the relative merits of their products. Like MS, they will attempt to manipulate the market and box consumers in so they have "no choice", that way the products do not have to excel or even compare with competitors.
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iIf there is blame in the area of movies and access to them then blame the studios that sold out.
Besides, what businesses of their size do not attempt to control the markets? The only reason why small businesses do not attempt is that they no little has little impact.
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Microsoft's New Xbox Experience Launches-
...and quite possibly breaks compatibility with DVI based HDMI displays. More to come....
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Person99
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Besides, what businesses of their size do not attempt to control the markets? The only reason why small businesses do not attempt is that they no little has little impact. |
This is true, but in some businesses the structure is such that it cannot be done (e.g. the auto industry). In others, it is illegal (e.g. all train tracks are owned by some company, but they cannot use that to deny access to other companies because it is an "essential" resource).
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Person99
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Besides, what businesses of their size do not attempt to control the markets? The only reason why small businesses do not attempt is that they no little has little impact. |
One other point. This where we the consumer has power. So, it is up to us to "punish" companies that do this or prevent them from getting into this position. We vote with our dollars people, "voting" against Sony is one of the best things you can do for yourself as a consumer.
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Actually, since I do not rent movies or buy into paid-for streaming it isn't affecting me. Hence, I do not have a reason to hold Sony accountable. In fact, in my home Sony actually has done less to piss me off than, say, Microsoft.
For instance, my release-date 360 came with a 20GB hard drive. If I want something larger M$ wants $150 for 120GB. I can probably get it for around $125. With Sony and the PS3, I can at will yank the removable laptop drive and go about business as usual. I can also buy a 500GB laptop for $110.
M$ $125 for 120GB
Sony $110 for 500GB
So, if I am going to empower myself in retribution then its going to be on M$ and not buying another hard drive.
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According to a few sources Walmart is going to offer Xbox 360 ($199) sold with free Guitar Hero III Legends of Rock game and wireless guitar next Friday from 5-10am. I might have to pull the trigger on this deal, can it stream captured HD files from my Vista Media Center HTPC?
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