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Electrogeek



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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Runco 993

Does anyone know what a runco DTV993 is, i have the chance to uy one (for about USD$20) i already have an older sony(1020), that is really nicely setup with new tubes, and am wonder if it is worth it also, what do people think of the runco DTV991, more or less the same offer

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject:

http://www.curtpalme.com/Runco_Model_CrossRef.shtm
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject:

The 993 isn't listed in the cross reference. Is it possibly a 933? Either way if it has decent tubes it would be a great deal at that price. I would buy both if I could. If it is actually a 993 it is probably a nice Barco.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject:

Could it be a 943? If so, its a Barco 708 with color filtered HD145 lenses. That would be a steal for the lenses alone.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Runco 993

Electrogeek wrote:
already have an older sony(1020), that is really nicely setup with new tubes, Cheers
doesn't matter how nice the tubes are in the 1020, both of those runco's will blow it away, even with burnt tubes. the 991 especially is pretty high end XG110 and capable of 1080i and 720P. Your 1020 can't even do progressive scan.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject:

jkruger wrote:
The 993 isn't listed in the cross reference.


Correct. There is no such things as a Runco DTV-993. Probably a typo.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject:

Buy them both! Wink
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Runco 993

draganm wrote:
Electrogeek wrote:
already have an older sony(1020), that is really nicely setup with new tubes, Cheers
doesn't matter how nice the tubes are in the 1020, both of those runco's will blow it away, even with burnt tubes. the 991 especially is pretty high end XG110 and capable of 1080i and 720P. Your 1020 can't even do progressive scan.


Bingo, we have a winner!

Seriously, you could have the best set up 1020 in the world and just about any CRT (or any $400 used 720p digital for that matter) will blow it away.

The only thing that might give you pause is that the XG series are VERY loud. No, louder than you are thinking...louder than that...little louder...OK, that's how loud. Yep, not good for home theater without using a hushbox.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject:

I can concur on the loud part. It's loud enough such that if your XG isn't hushboxed nicely and you've spent more than $100 on your audio side, you're wasting your money. A nice audio setup with an un-hushboxed XG is a waste of time.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject:

ok, i'll spend me some money tonight then; this is where i would be getting them from:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=183800860
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=183801441

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject:

Looks like a typo for a 933 (6pg xtra). If you had a choice between the two the 991 is a better projector.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject:

Errr, on both those auctions it says:

Sold as is. Assume that it is not working - not tested since traded in.

Bid accordingly. How much are you willing to spend to get it working? $200? $2000?

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject:

We have a result, it is indeed a 933 lol
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject:

In NZ that usually means, we have no interest in helping you in any way (no one around here know about CRTS) secondly, i am in the final year of an electonic engineering degree, and lastly, eh, at 20 bucks, no big loss, i could probably sell the tubes to curt and still be up on where i started Smile
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject:

Make sure they have the remotes for them, if not, that's another $100 to get the set tested and working. I'd offer no more than $200 each. At that price, you could part them out and get your money back methinks.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject:

Electrogeek wrote:
In NZ that usually means, we have no interest in helping you in any way (no one around here know about CRTS) secondly, i am in the final year of an electonic engineering degree, and lastly, eh, at 20 bucks, no big loss, i could probably sell the tubes to curt and still be up on where i started Smile

Where do you see $20? These are auctions.... doesn't mean they'll sell for $20.

I'm an EE too, but a lot of good that does me if the tubes are completely toast. Smile

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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject:

You can see the phosphor of the PG in the picture, the blue, at least(through the lens), doesn't show the telltale brown of a burned tube. Either of those projectors is so much better than your current one they're like airport spotlights and you have a book of matches...
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject:

Well, I'm the guy that bought the Runco 991 in the above auction.
Thought of going for them both, but...

This is my first CRT projector. but I've been making a little money recently buying buggered up CRT RPTV's and fixing them, so figured that it was fairly similar. Seems that I was right on that note.

I've taken the lenses off, the green tube has a bit of burn going on. but it doesn't look too bad. I'm not sure how bad bad is though...
you can see a slightly darker patch on the tube.
The red has a barely distinguishable burn on it. and the blue looks perfect.

They fire up all good and well and I've had a play round with the thing on the wall and it doesn't look too bad asside from the boogie convergence.

I suppose the next step is to get the remote. Pitty it didnt come with it. Is it at all possible to converge with a computer using the NEC software? I don't have the little camera thing, but I've made the serial cable and that seems to work ok.

What else should I be looking for to see if there is anything else that needs fixing?



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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject:

pretty much everything but point convergence works from the PC Software (if your PJ is one of the supported models).
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject:

Yeah, i decided not to follow them in the end as i have been offered a modern vidikron Smile for free, the best price...
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