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AnalogRocks
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TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| JustGreg wrote: | Hi Paul
Donchya just hate it when you sell something that you don't 'think' you'll need any more? I've done it more than once! I blame it on this Rain Man OCD hatred of clutter I have. |
A clutter hater? Wow how do you manage to be in the CRT hobby? I love clutter. You move it here, you move it there, it's everywhere! 
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| JustGreg wrote: | Go 'hed, I dare ya. Go out to dinner with me and order the same food I do...it will SUCK!  Even if you recommend it! 
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| JustGreg wrote: | | I don't know a thing about the voltage outputs of vid devices...1ppv seems to stick in my grey covered grey matter, but I'll bet the problem lies there. It's possible my VIM was repaired at one point (with an alternate component) and that's why it works??? Curiouser and curiouser. |
I agree, somethings not right but what? I've tried two different VIM's, two different CLM's, two different Baluns, umpteen different cables.
The only things that can't be changed are the sat-box (although I did use two different outputs with identical results), the VIM-HD and the pj - one of them has to be the culprit.
As the sat-box works directly plugged into the pj (via the VIM-HD), that sort of points to the Baluns but both of these work when plugged into the TV so it has to be the VIM-HD thats not happy with the baluns. But again, its weird that 576p works but 720p and 1080i does not, your right I think, has to be the signal. Somehow, somewhere its being changed sufficiently when using the Baluns for it to be unacceptable to the pj - man, this is just impossible to resolve especially as none of the suspect items have any user adjustable bits to fiddle with.
Is it possible to measure the input signal strength somewhere? I have a multimeter but would need to know exacty what points to connect it to.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, another thought - do you think the HDFury2 would work? I wonder....!
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PaulB
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I know, I know. I was just trying to be cheap!
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PaulB
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| 1031 wrote: | | So your HD-sat box is on another room than Marquee, have you though that there might be groundloop between those two (components that are connected to sat-receiver and between marquee) I dintīn read whole thread, but have you tested to unplug all another connections from sat-receiver, just leaving power plug and that hdmi out ->balun connection connected? It is possible that 50Hz hum/groundloop current can mess up syncīs |
Yes I tried that, not specifically because of any potential groundloop (I hadn't even thought of that I must admit) but because I had the sat-box out of its rightful place whilst I was trying to figure out what was wrong and as such ended up with just the power cable and the balun attached, no phone connection, sat-coax, optical out etc, etc,.
Again, good thinking though.
A right royal pain in the butt this is, a real pain!
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PaulB
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| Nashou66 wrote: | If you have an extra run of Cat6 cable bring it into the room where the PJ is along with the sat box, try a short run and then a long run like you had from the other room, see which it is it might be the run is too long for the higher bandwidth.
Athanasios |
Yep, tried that, (used 6 inches of cat6) still got wiggly picture. I get a perfect picture on an HDMI TV via the baluns and 30metres of Cat6, its just the pj that seems to have a problem - has to be the Moome and/or the pj. One or other must be less tolerent of the signal its seeing for some unfathomable reason.
I had a close look at the Moome card, no obvious way to make the input signal hotter that I can see.
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PaulB
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Have you tried your blu ray player ,if you have one, via the baluns?
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I use a Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive in my HTPC, and no, I've not tried the HTPC through the Baluns.............. yet!
I'll try that asap (weekend most likely), worth a try, could be interesting.
Thanks Athanasios, 
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Ok, just hauled the HTPC through to the balun and the cat6 inputs, hooked it up and its not working at 720p and 1080p at 50hz and 60hz. Not tried any lower res as its teatime and the other half just walked in the door. Hmmmm.....!
Need to look deeper into this at the weekend when I have more time, also other half not happy at the mess I've made with cables lying around everywhere - I'm in the sh*t!
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Finally figured this out. There were two problems, first was that one of the outputs on the HDMI Splitter is dodgy, second is that one or other of the Cat6 cables is acting up - the cables worked fine when I tested them with the TV a week or so back, since then I've messed with them sufficiently to make things worse somewhere. I got a new set of cables and (leaving the splitter out of the setup) everything perfectly at 1080i and 1080p!
So, I just need to reinstall the Cat6 cables (I'm going to install them complete with RJ45 connectors, I think that putting my own connectors onto shielded cat6 is where the cabling went wrong (not the actual wiring of the RJ45's, thats easy but the termination of the shielding is where I think the problem lies).
Anyway, good news and I'll et back on track next weekend - got a drunken farewell party for a colleague tonight!
My thanks to all the usual culprits for trying to sort me out, bad luck and panic solutions conspired against me but alls well that ends well I think Greg hit the nail on the head, it was "something simple that just eluded me"!
All in all, thank f*ck thats over, phew!
Having thought about it more, I do agree that a Lummie is a necessity with the Marquee for the Sat-Box and will purchase one as soon as a decent priced one apears!
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Hi,
I have a Marquee with moome HDMI internal card, and, since last year, I have the same HDMI extender over cat5e (50 ft), working perfectly, even at 1080p.
Actually, I have a Lumagen HDP in my chain (can't live without!), but the ballon worked flawless before I bought the VP, directly connected to a switcher or to any single source (PS3, Sky HD Sat box, dvd player). I would ask the vendor for a replace, if your new cabling won't work..
Only my experience.
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| karmat63 wrote: | I would ask the vendor for a replace, if your new cabling won't work..
Only my experience. |
They have agreed to replace the faulty splitter that caused all the problems so that will be winging its way back to them tomorrow. Been an absolute nightmare trying to figure out what was wrong. So glad its all resolved, just waiting for the next disaster to strike......!
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| Quote: | | They have agreed to replace the faulty splitter that caused all the problems |
Ops, I didn't read your last posts...
Glad everything is working.
Those cheap ballons do their dirty own for, at least, one forth of the cost of branded ones...
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