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[garysorenson]

A piece of good advice

For the last couple months or so, I've had issues with my NEC PG9 in that the convergence was off every time I turned it on.
I would fix it by using the Point function. It would stay put for the evening (4 8 hours) and then when I turned it off at night and on again the next day it would be off again. I Googled the issue and found that it could be the capacitors on my convergence board and would
need replacing. So i searched for a fix specific to my issue and found nothing.
I remembered reading somewhere that my Point convergence should be no more that 4 clicks off, in otherwards if it took more than 4 clicks to align the grid, it would
need to be tweaked with the other controls and not the Point board. So I decided to zero out the pointboard to see where I was at. Whoa, it was off at least 1" in some spots, so I tweaked everything
back into shape and was able to get it within an 1/8 inch or better.Then I used the point control to finish it off, I need no more than 3 clicks on the remote to do this.Its been very good the last few days.
So, anyway, my advice is to tweak your projector without using the point control to avoid this drifting issue, or zero out the point ocasionally and redo it as described above. So I didnt mean to get so
windy and type a novel about this problem but I think it is good advice, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

[Person99]

[garysorenson]

What I was trying to say and I may not have explained it well is not as the initial setup is concerned but more of a maintenance issue to ocasionally zero out the Pointboard to confirm your initial setup (4 clicks max) and not to tweak it with the Point tool every time its off

[kschmit2]

It was the advice I gave you in another thread a couple of days ago.

See here:
http://curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12914 and here:
http://curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12958

So, now you claim that this is something you came up with?

[garysorenson]

Pardon em f*ck*** Wa if I didnt read all the attachments on yesterdays posts, At the time, there where only 3 or 4.
This wasnt meant to be an insult of anytype. All I was doing was trying to tell you guys something good. It'l probably never happen again since my 2cents is only worth a handfull of dog sh*t.

[rabies_70]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH You guys are funny. Dog sh*t....classic. Such kidders

[ecrabb]

... A handfull of dogshit. That is classic.

Hey Gary - no need to get pissed off. Kai was just telling you that he had already told you exactly that, and that it's common knowledge for most of us.

The thing is, there are a lot of VERY knowledgeable people on this site who have been installing, operating, and even designing CRT projectors (or parts of them) for a couple of decades. Guys like me who have been around CRT projectors for 7 or 8 years know quite a bit about them, but I also realize I know a tiny bit compared to many of the people who post here.

Kai happens to be one of the more knowledgeable people on the site, and I can see how he might have been annoyed by your post - it did, after all sound a lot like you though you had come up with some sort helpful hint that nobody has written about or pointed out anywhere.

On the contrary, I'd be willing to bet that there are literally dozens of posts which describe the very idea you conveyed: To setup, first zero out point and all other controls, get convergence the absolute BEST you can with geometry controls, and resort to point convergence only as the very last resort to completely converge every part of the image. In fact, on page 6 of CRT setup guide, it reads:

http://www.curtpalme.com/CRTSetupGuide6.shtm

[garysorenson]

The absolute last thing I intended to do was insult anyones intelligence or steal any advice. However, when driving home last night I thought this would be a good way to check my convergence. Mabey I am a bit behind on things but the idea did come out of my head too. Have you ever thought of a real cool invention or idea only to find out someone else beat you to it? This only enforces the importance of this step in projector setip.
So anyway, my humble apologies for stepping on your toes, again, that was the last thing I wanted to do.

[ecrabb]

I can't speak for Kai, but I'm sure it's no biggie!

[garysorenson]

Several years ago my older brother was in the same situation as yourself.
He was able to borrow the money from his bank by bringing in all the paperwork and documentation.
He went right to the top to talk with the president. He was able to borrow 80,000.00 on his line of credit.

[ecrabb]

Hmmm... Interesting. How'd that work out for him? I mean, how has the idea/venture out?

SC

[garysorenson]

It worked out pretty well. He payed back the bank and sold the product line to Newell Corporation who supplies Builders Square. The product is an extensible paint roller called The High Roller. Now he collects royalties from it and is well protected by the patent on the product.

[garysorenson]

Do you recall how many claims where in your patent. The more claims you have, the stronger your protection is but it will cost more.

[perisoft]

[ecrabb]

Gary, I don't remember exactly the number of claims - I have it in my notes. The patent atty said there was a "standard" number of minimum claims... I think it was 8 or 10 or something. And you're right - more claims was more money. He said an idea as simple as mine would be fine with the standard number of claims - which was the six or seven G's figure. Something more complicated (say a mechanical tool or iPod or something) might need many more.

No separate geometry for red/blue on the Barcos? Seriously? That's ridiculous. I don't see how that would even work!

SC

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