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Person99



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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject:

Clarence wrote:


"Cars" on Starz HD... It looked pretty good. Not as nice as "The Incredibles".


Yeah, I expected it to be as good as The Incredibles. Little disappointed it was not.

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ecrabb
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject:

Oh man, you guys are killing me... Clarence with your screen shots! Incredibles... Cars... The anticipation is driving me nuts! If only I could take a week off and finish my damn room!

I got the screen laminated to particle board this weekend and my buddy and I almost killed ourselves taking it downstairs on the frame I built. I still need to get the cleat bolted onto the wall to hang it. But, we'll watch Sopranos in HD in the theater this Sunday, I think finally.

Screen shots to come... soon!

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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject:

ecrabb wrote:
Oh man, you guys are killing me... Clarence with your screen shots! Incredibles... Cars... The anticipation is driving me nuts! If only I could take a week off and finish my damn room!


SC


Dude!

Man up and "Git er Done"!
Dont make us come out there! 8)

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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject:

Wow Clarence. That first screen shot looks 3D! Excellent!
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tbase1



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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject:

How do you guys rate the stewart ultramatte 200 screen?
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Person99



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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject:

tbase1 wrote:
How do you guys rate the stewart ultramatte 200 screen?


I see bad sparklies on it and it hot spots. One of the local Guys with a G90 had the same problem.

I'm quickly coming to the point where I think there are really 4 screens worth using:
Best Money no limit -- Studiotek 130
Very good commercial -- Dalite Cinemavision/Hurley Superglo
Very good DIY -- Wilsonart

To put it the way one of the local guys did, there really is something special about the Studiotek 130--nothing looks as good. It looks fantastic, I just can't justify the expense.

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject:

I'm running a barco data 701 with the ultramatte 200. Do you think I'll have a issue with hot spotting. Stewart's site says the 200 does not hot spot on low light output crt projectors.

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject:

emdawgz1 wrote:
Man up and "Git er Done"!
Dont make us come out there! 8)

Guys... I'm "gitten' er done!

Got the WilsonArt DW screen hung up this weekend. We nearly killed ourselves getting it into the basement. OK, I'm exaggerating, but it was F'in heavy. I kind of overbuilt because I wanted to use the scrap for shelves instead of throwing away a bunch of wood (it's 96x54, so two 27"-wide strips, and two 21" strips of left-over). Probably not the best idea in hindsight because of weight, but the thing is flat - that's for sure.

I'm pretty impressed so far, as is everybody who's seen it. I haven't even had a chance to do anything but a quick tweak to an old setup... a friend who has an XGA digital remarked, "Man, you're really spoiling me!"

Re: Hotspotting... The only time I noticed any hotspotting at all was when my HD Tivo displayed a dark grey screen for half a second or so before it started playing a file... I saw a little color reflection in the center of the screen. I never noticed it at all during any video, solid colors or even bright white. I have the perfect situation for it to show up, in that my eyes are probably in almost the perfect spot on a reflected axis from the lenses.

The room's a miss right now, but I'll take some pics in a few days. Thanks to Clarence and everyone for the data-gathering on the WilsonArt DW.

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Person99



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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject:

tbase1 wrote:
I'm running a barco data 701 with the ultramatte 200. Do you think I'll have a issue with hot spotting. Stewart's site says the 200 does hot spot on low light output crt projectors.


If you don't see hotspotting and sparklies, I'd be surprised.

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paw



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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject:

Any one know how well Stewart UltraMatte 150 works?

Just FYI, it's half gain is 35 degrees verses 75 degrees for Studiotek 130 and 26 degrees for UltraMatte 200.

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dc_pilgrim



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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject:

SmX just went high end - FYI:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=845912
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject:

As I was one of the biggest critics (along with Bruce Can) of Ruben, this doesn't surprise me. I just believed that he went into this with the intent of making money. That is fine, but is hardly the spirit of DIY. It has been awhile but I believe Bruce found almost the exact same material that Ruben sells.
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject:

Yeah! I thought it was sh*tty of Ruben to cut off the DIY sales without warning. It was DIY that got him were he's at. It will be interesting to see how his forum survives. From a business prospective, I think you should be able to do both DIY, supplying the raw material, and finished product.

Spanky:
Do you have Bruce Can's contact info? I'd be interested in the material he found.

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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject:

Has anyone found Wilsonart Designer White D354-60 in Canada?

I'm going to Home Depot and Rona to have a look.

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Rdean



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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject:

I am one of the people who bought some of that screen material off of eBay. It works fine but I have no frame of reference.

Does anyone have some extra Wilsonart DW material, perhaps the end that you cut off of your storebought piece in order to achieve your desired AR? I'd love to put a piece directly in front of my existing screen so I can see for myself what I am missing.

I would be happy to pay you some $ for the trouble of sending it to me.

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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject:

I have a piece of scrap left over in the garage. It's probably only 4-5" wide x 96" or so long, so it's not a very wide piece. But, a 5"x10" chunk would be better to look at than the little 1.5x2 sample chips you can get from Lowes or HD. I tried using a sample chip to hold up to my temp screen and it's utility was pretty questionable.

Let me know if anybody wants a small chunk, and I'll cut one off and stick it in an envelope to mail.

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jamieh



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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Has anyone found Wilsonart Designer White D354-60 in Canada?

I'm going to Home Depot and Rona to have a look.


I'm in Dundas(part of Hamilton now) and Rona got it for me in about 3 days. My screen is a 100" diagonal and the standard sheet size is 49" x 97" so all i had to do was trim some off the length.
I've been using DW for about 3 months and i'm happy with it.
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject:

Home Depot I got a blank stare. They offered Formica brand matte white.

Then I went to Rona and found it. D354-60 Designer white. 1 week if they have it in stock and 4 weeks if they have to order it. 4 x 8 sheet about $90 and 5 x 12 sheet about $120.

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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject:

Well it was about 110.00 Cdn if i remember right and that was including the delivery charge to my local Rona.
It took 3 days as it was in stock at Wilsonart which has a distribution centre in Toronto. I ve been in front projection since 1995 and this is certainly is one of the best bang for the buck screens i've seen . This stuff is almost indestructable as its made for counter tops and its easy to work with and mount. There's plenty of tech info over on AVS.
Guess it helps when a guys been in the renovation business for 30 years and has worked with laminates before.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject:

Has anyone tried the place that replied to me, Reico Distributors?

Just wondering.

wallace

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