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GREG1292
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macgyver655
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Dont run it anymore like that or you'll damage the tubes. You have a problem with one or more of the 3 horz boards.
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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I'm guessing this line is really dim? I've never seen an Ampro spot burn the tubes. As Mac says, check the yoke board for a connector that's fallen off. Check the HOT board for a blown fuse. Check all connectors around the HOT board.
If not, send me the three boards associated with the H circuits, any of the three can cause lack of H deflection.
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GREG1292
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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Horizontal output board. All board IDs are stamped on the motherboard, there's an H processor board and I think a H power supply next to the HO board.
Sorry my bad, fell into techspeak. And incorrectly so, the HOT is usually TV shop terms for Horizontal Output Transformer..
here's the board layout ID:
http://www.curtpalme.com/Ampro3600_Layout1.shtm
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macgyver655
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| Curt Palme wrote: | I'm guessing this line is really dim? I've never seen an Ampro spot burn the tubes. As Mac says, check the yoke board for a connector that's fallen off. Check the HOT board for a blown fuse. Check all connectors around the HOT board.
If not, send me the three boards associated with the H circuits, any of the three can cause lack of H deflection. |
Yea your probably right. I just did one a few weeks ago and the line wasn't very bright. I just hate to see anyone running the machine with deflection failure.
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GREG1292
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Z-Photo
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 2749 Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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If the tubes are good - pull them and put them in a barco. I have an 808 complete (currently listed for part out) except for a green tube (and neckboards) that you could have cheap.
Part out the Ampro - they are not worth the headache.
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wait - are they not all DEAD already?
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GREG1292
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macgyver655
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Just send them to Curt. He can fix them for you.
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Robert A. Hill
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Are there any error messages? Code-30 will display any errors that should be resolved before going deeper. Also, i assume that all leds on the LVPS are green?
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macgyver655
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My guess is if you pull the horz supply board you'll find a blown fuse on it.
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GREG1292
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Zebu Fellenz
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I would replace the fuse, if it blows again send the board to Curt, if not hope it fixes the problem.
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macgyver655
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It will blow it out again but give it a try if you want.
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GREG1292
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I replaced the fuse and was able to get the test grid to come up but it was not stable kind of shaking a bit
then the test grid went off after 3 minutes. Seems like the Horizontal supply board got extremley hot!!!!!!!!
I talked to Curt and he suggested send all the Horizontal boards in. IO am just trying to understand why the Ampro is doing what it is.
All the green lights on the power supply where green but I had red lights 1 and 5 blinking on the cpu board. Don't know what that means?
Thanks
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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That's all unrelated to the H section. You've more or less found the problem already. Something on the H output board is overheating, blowing the fuse. I have had the H power supply board cause the H board to overheat, so you might have two problems. Do send all three boards in if you are going to send them in.
The CPU board lights are like the processor lights on the Barcos. More or less useless in telling you anything about the operation of the set, unless there's a problem on the CPU board.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G
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The CPU board lights are like the processor lights on the Barcos. More or less useless in telling you anything about the operation of the set, unless there's a problem on the CPU board. |
They just keep beeping and flashing AND BEEPING AND FLASHING. ~Cap'n Kirk, Airplane II
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GREG1292
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macgyver655
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There is a certain part on that supply thats bad, taking out the fuse. I'm sure Curt knows what it is..................
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