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[ilias]

How long we stay whith CRTs? They come the LED! 50000 hours, and 100.000 : 1 contrast!!!! Is that true?

[kschmit2]

until the last bulb (!) burns out

Haha

[Zebu Fellenz]

[ecrabb]

[Curt Palme]

Look at the 'electronic builds' thread. The LED may be built to last 50K hours, just like plasmas are now rated at what, 60K hours, but the chassis around it is designed to last 3-4K hours.

To me, CRTs can and will last 20 years, determined more but things like heat buildup and poor components determine a lifespan more than amount of use and components due to aging.

I'm not really dealing much with sets pre 1990 at this point, but I'd say that a Marquee 8500 vintage 1996 still has a good 8-10 years of life left in the chassis. I'll be here for a bit yet, much to the chagrin of some of you..

I'm still of the opinion that some major Japanese manufacturer has to fold due to lack of profit before someone gets it in their head that maybe charging a bit more for quality merchandise that lasts longer could be a better business model than the disposable agenda that they all have now.

[Curt Palme]

Look at the 'electronic builds' thread. The LED may be built to last 50K hours, just like plasmas are now rated at what, 60K hours, but the chassis around it is designed to last 3-4K hours.

To me, CRTs can and will last 20 years, determined more but things like heat buildup and poor components determine a lifespan more than amount of use and components due to aging.

I'm not really dealing much with sets pre 1990 at this point, but I'd say that a Marquee 8500 vintage 1996 still has a good 8-10 years of life left in the chassis. I'll be here for a bit yet, much to the chagrin of some of you..

I'm still of the opinion that some major Japanese manufacturer has to fold due to lack of profit before someone gets it in their head that maybe charging a bit more for quality merchandise that lasts longer could be a better business model than the disposable agenda that they all have now.

[garyfritz]

I dunno. As long as the majority of consumers in the US (and presumably elsewhere) care only about price, then the manufacturers will keep cranking out cheap crap to push at Walmart. If they start to go out of business, they'll just charge more for their cheap crap. No way will 98% of current consumers pay what actual quality gear would cost.

Besides I'm sure the manufacturers love it -- they know everybody's got to buy a "new one" every few years.

And honestly, as long as technology keeps improving so dramatically that people WANT a new one every few years anyway, what's their incentive to make something last 20 years? It just means they'll lose sales when those buyers sell their still-working set on craigslist.

[Elaine Benes]

Before anyone says anything negative about LED based technologies, they should SEE them in action, compare them face to face with good HD signals.

I have a buddy who has a G90, an LC Marquee, and one of the new LED LCD Samsung panel tv's. Guess which one has the best picture BY A LONG SHOT ?

The LED LCD is the best image I've ever seen, bar none, and not by a little bit, but by a HUGE amount.

It is totally black when it "fades to black" and is sharper and better resolved than anything I've ever seen, including his perfect G90. In scene contrast ratio is shocking, better than real life. Shadow detail is astounding, you'll spend the whole movie looking at tiny little elements in the shadows you've never seen before. Yet black is STILL BLACK !!!

The LED LCD tv is leaps and bounds, head and shoulders better than anything EVER. Period.

If they made it big enough, my buddy would scrap the projector all together, in a flash.

So, I'd say, if you can afford to buy new, then you will likely be replacing your CRT projector within a few years at most. If price is a consideration, you're likely looking at a decade or so...

[AnalogRocks]

[AnalogRocks]

[Elaine Benes]

[WanMan]

Unfortunately, I'll wait for SED before I consider stepping away from CRT.

[Angus_rg]

[ilias]

I read that ecrabb!!!



Chilin Technology Introduces the World’s 1st Lamp Free 1080p Projector with Liquid Cooling Technology at CEDIA EXPO 2008.

For Release 2 p.m. MDT
Sept. 3, 2008

Chilin Technology Introduces the World’s 1st Lamp Free 1080p Projector with Liquid Cooling Technology at CEDIA EXPO 2008

Taiwan OEM/ODM supplier sets to impress the custom home theater channel.

Taiwan -- September 3rd, 2008 -- Chilin Technology, a leading ODM/OEM manufacturer and supplier of high end home theater projectors is pleased to announce the first liquid cooling LED light source home theater projector. In partnership with Luminus Devices and Texas Instruments, this projector features Luminus PhlatLight LED in place of a conventional UHP lamp, as well as the latest Texas Instrument 1080p (1920x1080) DMD technology. In order to optimize the performance of this new light source, the projector requires a thermal management system that breaks with tradition. To this end, Chilin introduces the1st Lamp Free Full HD Home Theater Projector with liquid cooling into the market.

With 600 ANSI lumen and >100,000:1 Contrast Ratio, Chilin delivers an unbelievable 128% NTSC color gamut, which is 80% greater than that achieved through conventional UHP projectors. Integrated with Chilin’s tradition of superior optics and color management performance, the picture quality and color performance is simply unbelievable.

“ Building on our 44-year heritage of superior technical capabilities, we at Chilin are very enthusiastic about the harmony of artistry and technology that we have achieved with our new LED based projector, “said Alex Wang, senior product manager of Chilin Technology. “Though we may be a newcomer as a Taiwan OEM/ODM supplier in the custom home theater arena, we are focused on delivering ultra high end projectors that provide our customers superior color management, picture quality and thermal management systems.”

The secret to building high quality, superior performance and longer lifetime LED based projectors is an advance thermal management system. Chilin engineers designed its liquid cooling technology to assure the optimized performance of LEDs over time. Chilin’s unique cooling technology dissipates heat directly from the Phlat Light LEDs which is operated at a high electric current of 30A, hundreds of heat density higher than current common LED application.

Chilin has designed an efficient cooling technology to assure LED reliability. Chilin’s liquid cooling technology dissipates heat directly by water to keep the PhlatLight LEDs junction at a consistent, low temperature assuring unmatched reliability of Luminus’ LED. This technology truly enables the concept of “no lamp replacement”. Chilin expects to achieve up to 50,000 hours under its liquid cooling technology.

”Chilin Technology is very pleased to announce our successful joint development of using TI’s DLP Technology and Luminus’s Phlat Light LEDs to achieve superior product performance and image quality,” noted Wang.

Most notable, the no shattering, no lamp replacement, HD DLP home theater projector will be demonstrated at CEDIA EXPO 2008 in a private suite located on the 10th Floor, Room # 1014 of the Hilton Garden Inn, 1400 Welton Street, Denver, Colorado. The Chilin suite will be accessible from September 3rd-6th, where Chilin will be showcasing their entire series of DLP based 1080P projectors for existing and future OEM/ODM partners.

Please contact Gina Wu or Alex Wang to schedule a technology preview of Chilin’s product technology at CEDIA EXPO 2008. For more information - www.Chilintech.com.tw


About Chilin TeCHNOLOGY
Chilin Technology was founded in 1964, a subsidiary of the Chi-Mei Group. Chilin Technology has been playing an important role of managing color performance in plastic raw materials for over 40 years. In 2000, Chilin entered the display industry via Flat Panel Display material, LCD Flat Panel Display systems and Projection Display. Chilin is uniquely positioned because of its vertical integrated scope and strength in component supply chain management. Chilin offers “one stop shop” service to companies seeking superior value and performance in their OEM partner.

[AnalogRocks]

[AnalogRocks]

[ilias]

I dont change my G70!!! I love it!!! In the end of the month i order the Sony IFB-FULLHD HDMI 1.3 Input Card, and i am ok!