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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: WALL-E Gets a Blu-ray Date: November 18, 2008 |
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WALL-E Gets Blu-ray Date
Posted August 15, 2008 02:27 PM
Click here to preorder 'Wall-E' on Blu-ray from Amazon - save 31%
Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment has announced that they will bring the Pixar animated film 'WALL-E' to Blu-ray on November 18th, day-and-date with the DVD release. Little is know about this release except that it will be a two-disc set with BD-Live interactivity and a digital copy of the film via, what Disney is calling, "Disney File".
No word on what Pixar catalog title might accompany 'WALL-E' on release day. Originally, 'Finding Nemo' was to be released, but has since been delayed until 2009.
More information will be added as it becomes available.
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I wonder when "The Incredibles" will be released, that would have to be one of my favourites from Pixar.
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Possible WALL-E Special Features Revealed
Posted August 22, 2008 02:18 PM
DVD Monthly has received exclusive details regarding some of the special features that will be found on the UK release of 'WALL-E', which is due to hit US store shelves on November 18th, day-and-date with the DVD release. No technical specs were revealed besides the previously announced spec that it would be a two-disc release.
Likely extras for this release include:
Audio Commentary With Director Andrew Stanton
Animation Sound Design: Building Worlds From The Sound Up - An introduction to Ben Burtt's sound design work on WALL•E, contextualized against animation sound design from the early Disney films. The custom sound-design process is illustrated with examples from both WALL•E and historic footage of the Disney sound effects masters at work.
WALL-E's Tour of the Universe - Join WALL•E on his own private tour of the Universe through the World-Wide Telescope, narrated by Auto-Pilot.
Deleted Scenes:
1. "Garbage Airlock" - In this original Garbage Airlock scene, it's WALL•E who must heroically rescue EVE from being ejected from the ship, and then revive her before she dies.
2. "Dumped" - In this alternate revelation scene, WALL•E presents the plant to EVE, and she realizes she must deliver it to the Bridge for analysis.
Presto Theatrical Short
BURN-E Short
UP Teaser Trailer
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Extra Features Released for WALL-E Blu-ray
Posted August 25, 2008 08:44 AM
Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment has released the special features for the upcoming Blu-ray release of 'WALL-E', due to hit store shelves on November 18th, day-and-date with the DVD release. The release will come as either a two-disc set or three-disc set with a digital copy of the film. Similar to the Blu-ray release of 'The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian', there will only be a $5 difference in price between the regular and digital copy versions of the release.
Extras for this release include:
Burn-E: All-new animated short
Burn-E with Boards - picture-in-picture (BD Exclusive)
Cine-Explor with director Andrew Stanton (BD Exclusive)
Axoim Arcade: retro suite of videogames with a twist (BD Exclusive)
Geek Track (BD Exclusive)
BD-Live Network (BD Exclusive)
Preston Animated Short
Deleted Scenes
Sneak Peek: Wall-E's Tour of the Universe
Animated Sound Design - Building Worlds from the Sound Up
Audio Commentary with Director Andrew Stanton
The Pixar Story by Leslie Iwerks
Additional Deleted Scenes
Wall-E's Treasures and Trinkets
BnL Shorts - Amusing peek into the inner workings of the Buy n Large Corporation
Lots of Bots Storybook
Making of Featurette
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The Blu-ray reviews are out!
Yet another absolute reference disk by all standards (including story):
Wall-E (Walt Disney) Video: 5/5 Audio: 5/5 (hover over link for pricing and more information)
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'Wall•E' is a wonderful film. It's majestic, emotional, thought-provoking, and wildly imaginative. It's also quite a risk for Pixar, as it mingles existential mediations on human existence with the lightness and whimsy the studio is so well known for, and it all pays off. This Blu-ray is a stunner, too, with five stars across the board for video and audio. Throw in a Digital Copy of the film on a third disc and a host of supplemental and exclusive content, and you have a new reference-standard Blu-ray. This is a must-own.
The Video: Sizing Up the Picture
Pixar and Walt Disney Studios have been hyping the Blu-ray of 'Wall•E' for weeks now via press releases and an extensive marketing campaign, and with good reason. This is a stupendous high-def presentation, one guaranteed to rank as a new demo disc of choice. This is easily one of the best examples of an animated film I've seen on Blu-ray, and stands head-to-head with previous Pixar Blu-ray releases 'Cars' and 'Ratatouille.'
'Wall•E' gets a direct-to-digital transfer presented in 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 video at 2.35:1. Pixar has crowed that there is not a pixel out of place, and the hyperbole is justified. 'Wall•E' is a visual masterpiece, and the sparkling surfaces are as sharp and clean as any high-def image your are going to see. Much of the animation is photo-realistic, and the level of detail to the picture is five-star. A good portion of 'Wall•E' takes place on dusty planet surfaces, so there is some intentional diffusing of the picture, but it's absolutely appropriate to the intended look of the film. Shadow delineation is also superb, with even the darkest areas of the picture revealing the finest of textures still visible.
The color palette is expansive, and one of the best examples I've seen yet of the improvements high-def offers over standard-def. Comparing the Blu-ray and standard DVD editions of 'Wall•E' (Disney was kind enough to supply us with both), it's clear how much smoother fine gradients of color are in high-def. Hues are also richer, especially primary colors. Fleshtones, as they are, are also accurate. But most impressive about 'Wall•E' is the sense of depth to the picture. This is as close to 3-D as you are going to get without wearing glasses, and on a large screen the effect is magnificent. Predictably, the encode is rock solid, with no artifacts, edginess or moire patterns, and an absence of noise. For my money, 'Wall•E' is the new reference standard for an animated presentation on Blu-ray.
The Audio: Rating the Sound
A DTS-HD Lossless Master Audio track is offered for 'Wall•E,' in 6.1 Surround (48kHz/24-bit). (Note: The track is incorrectly labeled as 5.1 Surround on the packaging.) There are no other mixes offered (not even standard Dolby Digital or any other foreign language dubs or subtitles. The audio is superb, delivering a fully immersive experience that is sure to dazzle.
Animated films are always a treat to enjoy on high-def because their soundtracks are constructed wholly in the studio, from the ground up. Every element sounds in the right place, with an expert balance of effects, music and dialogue. The added surround channel helps open up the rear soundstage wonderfully, with excellent seamless pans between all channels. Discrete effects are numerous, and subtle ambiance is almost always sustained. The score is also perfectly integrated and bled throughout.
Dynamic range is rich and robust, with excellent clarity and attenuation across the entire frequency spectrum. Low bass is as tight as a drum and never overpowering to the rest of the mix. Though 'Wall•E' is surprisingly light on dialogue (particularly the first half of the film), the spoken word isn't given short thrift and the mix is always perfectly balanced. Finally, it's no surprise, given that this is a Pixar film, how well-recorded 'Wall•E' is. The mix never sounds artificial or processed, and the source is as clean and slick as a newly-waxed floor. 'Wall•E' sounds as good as it looks. |
Can't wait!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| kal wrote: | I haven't heard any news about their catalog titles coming out on Blu-ray... they're obviously going to be released eventually but like every studio, they like to spread this stuff out to make more money.
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You know Disney is all about the milking for money with the "Disney Vault" and that BS. The rumors I've heard of the approach with Pixar films is this: all new stuff will come out pretty much when you expect. As far as catalog titles, they are going to do 2 per year so it will take them a few years to get them out. At the pathetic rate blu ray players are selling (certainly not taking the market like storm like DVD did), I don't they will have much need to alter this plan.
I too eagerly await The Incredibles with lossless audio. I'm pretty happy I got a damn good OAR HD copy from my FiOS (two actually--need a backup because I love this film) as we might not get it until 2011 or so!
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Two per year? Well, where the hell are next two, then? I bought Cars (catalog title) and Ratatouille (new release) a damn year ago! What's come out since? Nothing. WALL-E is the first new release in a year. So, where's the catalog title (or two)?
Disney sucks... The bastards.
Bugs Life and Nemo should look gorgeous, too.
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| ecrabb wrote: | Two per year? Well, where the hell are next two, then? I bought Cars (catalog title) and Ratatouille (new release) a damn year ago! What's come out since? Nothing. WALL-E is the first new release in a year. So, where's the catalog title (or two)?
Disney sucks... The bastards.
Bugs Life and Nemo should look gorgeous, too.
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Nemo was supposed to be this fall, but they did not want to release it close to WALL-E as they thought it would cut into profits (at $30 per disc, they don't think people will buy 2 within a month or so of each other). So, Nemo has been pushed to 2009, most likely spring.
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Yeah, and I'm sure the demographic that spent $300-500 on a Blu-ray player, $1000+ on an LCD TV, and buys $30 Blu-ray discs, is going to be very concerned about whether they'll be able to afford to buy two Pixar Blu-ray discs in the same month. Please. Besides, why do they expect everybody to run out and buy it the week it's released? Wouldn't a week or a month AFTER it's released be OK, too? Isn't a sale a sale? I thought they LIKED it when the sales revenue were more spread out. It seems if you released two at the same time, some people would by both, and the few that couldn't afford both, would just buy the other the next month.
Do the people that run these companies actually apply any common sense to anything or do they just look at graphs and charts all day and regurgitate whatever the Excel formula they're using tells them?
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SC, maybe the recent economy came after they bought all that electronic goodness. Maybe people are starting to cut back on their spending. At least most indicators are saying as much. Of course, anyone as rich as you might be the exception.
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| ecrabb wrote: | Yeah, and I'm sure the demographic that spent $300-500 on a Blu-ray player, $1000+ on an LCD TV, and buys $30 Blu-ray discs, is going to be very concerned about whether they'll be able to afford to buy two Pixar Blu-ray discs in the same month. Please. Besides, why do they expect everybody to run out and buy it the week it's released? Wouldn't a week or a month AFTER it's released be OK, too? Isn't a sale a sale? I thought they LIKED it when the sales revenue were more spread out. It seems if you released two at the same time, some people would by both, and the few that couldn't afford both, would just buy the other the next month.
Do the people that run these companies actually apply any common sense to anything or do they just look at graphs and charts all day and regurgitate whatever the Excel formula they're using tells them?
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No, I'm with you. It might be tough in this economy, but I think they should release a "Pixar Master Set" on BD. All 9 movies, the shorts, and some extras like the show that was done on Pixar etc. A 10 or 11 disc set. Retail it at $295, goes for $249 on Amazon, they might have more takers then they think.
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Agreed. I'd be all over that, Dave.
Wan... Ya smart ass. I'm FAR from rich. Hell, I'm just solidly middle class. But, regardless of how much people are "cutting back", I can't really see the one disc vs two disc thing making much sense. Seriously... Are people THAT tight? It seems to me, that if you're in a position to afford buying movies at all, you can probably buy two in the same month.
I understand Disney's position. If they "blew their wad" so to speak, and released all the movies at once, then they have one awesome year, sales/profit-wise, and have nothing for the next 5 years or whatever. Better to have 3 good years than to have 1 great year and 2 more ho-hum years. I get that. But, Dave's example is a good one. Release the entire collection and make it expensive. Get a bunch of sales from people buying the collection, then trickle out the individual movies to the masses that would never drop $300 on a box of movies all at once.
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Can you guys say.."Quarterly Earnings Reports"???
The animated division @ Disney needs to goose the yr end numbers... and then 1Q with finding Nemo.
I'd gather incredibles is on hold for some other occasion.
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| ecrabb wrote: | | Yeah, and I'm sure the demographic that spent $300-500 on a Blu-ray player, $1000+ on an LCD TV, and buys $30 Blu-ray discs, is going to be very concerned about whether they'll be able to afford to buy two Pixar Blu-ray discs in the same month. Please. |
Think what you want but if they're doing it, it's likely true. Disney would most definitely employ teams of people who's sole job is to max profits for the company. They likely spent weeks doing marketing research to determine that the order and frequency in which they are releasing titles maximizes profit.
| Quote: | | Besides, why do they expect everybody to run out and buy it the week it's released? Wouldn't a week or a month AFTER it's released be OK, too? Isn't a sale a sale? |
No. Limited window of opportunity to sell when the item is first put on the shelf to coincide with marketing (TV/print) ad campaigns.
Once something's been sitting on the shelf for while it's deemed as 'old' by consumers and the likelyhood that they'll buy is diminished. When the average consumer walks into the store they are more likely to buy something that's up front in the NEW RELEASES display than sitting in the back somewhere with older releases even though both discs are sealed/new. New releases are up front in plain sight and also seems newer to the consumer.
Marketing/sales 101.
There's a reason why prices drop over time and many titles end up slashed in price or in sales... because nobody's willing to pay the initial up front cost 6-12 months down the road.
| Quote: | | I thought they LIKED it when the sales revenue were more spread out. |
Maybe, but they'd rather have larger overall returns over short peaks that lower returns spread out evenly.
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I think you underestimate how much marketing research work and calculations Disney and companies like this do. It's easy to look at it from the outside and think they're "doing it wrong" but that's because the average person only sees and knows 1% of the story. I'm not saying that large companies don't make mistakes, I'm just saying that the odds that one consumer from the outside who isn't involved actually knowing better is pretty much impossible.
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| ecrabb wrote: | | But, Dave's example is a good one. Release the entire collection and make it expensive. Get a bunch of sales from people buying the collection, then trickle out the individual movies to the masses that would never drop $300 on a box of movies all at once. |
I'm sure they've looked at that. The fact that they're not doing it means that it's not as profitable.
Blu-ray is still a drop in the bucket. The longer they can wait to release titles, the more they will sell as most sales are in the first up-front sales period when a title is first released. That's the main reason why you see so many re-releases. They need to find a way to get that movie back into people's heads and into the "NEW RELEASES" shelf space.
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| kal wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | | But, Dave's example is a good one. Release the entire collection and make it expensive. Get a bunch of sales from people buying the collection, then trickle out the individual movies to the masses that would never drop $300 on a box of movies all at once. |
I'm sure they've looked at that. The fact that they're not doing it means that it's not as profitable.
Blu-ray is still a drop in the bucket. The longer they can wait to release titles, the more they will sell as most sales are in the first up-front sales period when a title is first released. That's the main reason why you see so many re-releases. They need to find a way to get that movie back into people's heads and into the "NEW RELEASES" shelf space.
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I quite agree with you. My example was because I thought they could make money now, then trickle them out to make more later. Blu Ray sales are pathetic--simply pathetic. Part of it is the economy part of it is the cost/benefit. Had HD DVD won, we might be seeing a bit faster adoption rate but it will still be bad. As such, for all the reasons you mentioned, why would any company want to release the popular catalog titles? Simply put, you are going to make a lot more money on something like The Matrix if you bring it out in 3 years from now, then you will now. If I was Warner, I'd literally make Sony pay me (even more) to bring The Matrix to blu ray before 2011.
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| Person99 wrote: | | As such, for all the reasons you mentioned, why would any company want to release the popular catalog titles? Simply put, you are going to make a lot more money on something like The Matrix if you bring it out in 3 years from now, then you will now. If I was Warner, I'd literally make Sony pay me (even more) to bring The Matrix to blu ray before 2011. |
That may have happened. I wouldn't be surprised. It was certainly happening before when there was a war on. Studios were being paid to be BD or HD exclusive. (Actually I'm not sure anyone ever got paid to be BD exclusive did they? I know Paramount and someone else got paid to be HD exclusive).
It's a real chicken and egg thing.
The Blu-ray consortium is certainly always courting studios to try and get them to release A-list catalog titles now instead of later. There may have been some payoffs. Who knows.
Some studios may also be releasing titles now on Blu-ray knowing full well that they have a an "ultimate version" in the works that they can release again in 2-3 years once adoption is better. It's always about the value proposition: If the studio can word it right and give something extra and their marketing teams deem that buy-in of the "new" version will be good, why not release the same movie 2, 3, or 10 times? It's been happening for years with DVD, Blu-ray won't be any different. How versions of T2 are there are DVD now?
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So.. with the weak Canadian dollar - the Amazon.com price doesn't seem like much of a bargain at $24.95. We're talking about basically $30 CDN + shipping costs, where-as I can just walk into WalMart or FutureShop tomorrow and pick it up for $32.99 (+tax).
Any advice out there on scoring the best deal?
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| Andrew Low wrote: | So.. with the weak Canadian dollar - the Amazon.com price doesn't seem like much of a bargain at $24.95. We're talking about basically $30 CDN + shipping costs, where-as I can just walk into WalMart or FutureShop tomorrow and pick it up for $32.99 (+tax).
Any advice out there on scoring the best deal?
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The weak US dollar isn't helping us Canadian buyers ... you're right about that.
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