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AnalogRocks
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Analog: |
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| GREG1292 wrote: | I just received my Radeon 3870HD ICE 512MB card and has a great picture. More depth and better color and textures
also detail and sharpness. Replaced a 7950GTOC and couldn't be happier. All settings left at stock settings. Will play more
over the weekend. |
Excellent Greg, keep me posted.
I'm having a hell of a time finding a single slot 512 meg card. Being that my case can only accomodate a single slot solution I'll keep looking.
All but 2 cards (the HIS 256 and 512meg ) have been two slot double wide's.
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Maybe you should start over, AR. 
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| WanMan wrote: | | Maybe you should start over, AR. |
Ohhh you need to be flogged for that one
The best laid plans.....
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No stock in Toronto or Markham....Just the 256meg version. 
So I'm now looking at this one:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=200&grp=3
I'll be getting the fan version if it'll fit my case. The heat pipe version would be perfect for a HTPC but the damn heat pipes prevent if from being installed in many HTPC cases. Irony. 
What the hell. Here are the complete spec's for postarity.
snipit....
Integrated AMD Xilleon™ HDTV encoder
Provides high quality analog TV output (component/S-video/composite)
Supports SDTV and HDTV resolutions
Underscan and overscan compensation
(YES!!!!!!!) 
ATI RADEON™ HD 3850
666 million transistors on 55nm fabrication process
PCI Express 2.0 x16 bus interface
256-bit GDDR3 memory interface
Ring Bus Memory Controller
Fully distributed design with 512-bit internal ring bus for memory reads and writes
Microsoft® DirectX® 10.1 support
Shader Model 4.1
32-bit floating point texture filtering
Indexed cube map arrays
Independent blend modes per render target
Pixel coverage sample masking
Read/write multi-sample surfaces with shaders
Gather4 texture fetching
Unified Superscalar Shader Architecture
320 stream processing units
Dynamic load balancing and resource allocation for vertex, geometry, and pixel shaders
Common instruction set and texture unit access supported for all types of shaders
Dedicated branch execution units and texture address processors
128-bit floating point precision for all operations
Command processor for reduced CPU overhead
Shader instruction and constant caches
Up to 80 texture fetches per clock cycle
Up to 128 textures per pixel
Fully associative multi-level texture cache design
DXTC and 3Dc+ texture compression
High resolution texture support (up to 8192 x 8192)
Fully associative texture Z/stencil cache designs
Double-sided hierarchical Z/stencil buffer
Early Z test, Re-Z, Z Range optimization, and Fast Z Clear
Lossless Z & stencil compression (up to 128:1)
Lossless color compression (up to 8:1)
8 render targets (MRTs) with anti-aliasing support
Physics processing support
Dynamic Geometry Acceleration
High performance vertex cache
Programmable tessellation unit
Accelerated geometry shader path for geometry amplification
Memory read/write cache for improved stream output performance
Anti-aliasing features
Multi-sample anti-aliasing (2, 4, or 8 samples per pixel)
Up to 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing (CFAA) for improved quality
Adaptive super-sampling and multi-sampling
Temporal anti-aliasing
Gamma correct
Super AA (ATI CrossFire™ configurations only)
All anti-aliasing features compatible with HDR rendering
Texture filtering features
2x/4x/8x/16x high quality adaptive anisotropic filtering modes (up to 128 taps per pixel)
128-bit floating point HDR texture filtering
Bicubic filtering
sRGB filtering (gamma/degamma)
Percentage Closer Filtering (PCF)
Depth & stencil texture (DST) format support
Shared exponent HDR (RGBE 9:9:9:5) texture format support
OpenGL 2.0 support
ATI Avivo™ HD Video and Display Platform
Dedicated unified video decoder (UVD) for H.264/AVC and VC-1 video formats
High definition (HD) playback of both Blu-ray and HD DVD formats
Hardware MPEG-1, MPEG-2, and DivX video decode acceleration
Motion compensation and IDCT
ATI Avivo Video Post Processor
Color space conversion
Chroma subsampling format conversion
Horizontal and vertical scaling
Gamma correction
Advanced vector adaptive per-pixel de-interlacing
De-blocking and noise reduction filtering
Detail enhancement
Inverse telecine (2:2 and 3:2 pull-down correction)
Bad edit correction
Two independent display controllers
Drive two displays simultaneously with independent resolutions, refresh rates, color controls and video overlays for each display
Full 30-bit display processing
Programmable piecewise linear gamma correction, color correction, and color space conversion
Spatial/temporal dithering provides 30-bit color quality on 24-bit and 18-bit displays
High quality pre- and post-scaling engines, with underscan support for all display outputs
Content-adaptive de-flicker filtering for interlaced displays
Fast, glitch-free mode switching
Hardware cursor
Two integrated dual-link DVI display outputs
Each supports 18-, 24-, and 30-bit digital displays at all resolutions up to 1920x1200 (single-link DVI) or 2560x1600 (dual-link DVI)
Each includes a dual-link HDCP encoder with on-chip key storage for high resolution playback of protected content
Two integrated 400 MHz 30-bit RAMDACs
Each supports analog displays connected by VGA at all resolutions up to 2048x1536
HDMI output support
Supports all display resolutions up to 1920x1080
Integrated HD audio controller with multi-channel (5.1) AC3 support, enabling a plug-and-play cable-less audio solution
Integrated AMD Xilleon™ HDTV encoder
Provides high quality analog TV output (component/S-video/composite)
Supports SDTV and HDTV resolutions
Underscan and overscan compensation
MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, WMV9, VC-1, and H.264/AVC encoding and transcoding
Seamless integration of pixel shaders with video in real time
VGA mode support on all display outputs
ATI PowerPlay™
Advanced power management technology for optimal performance and power savings
Performance-on-Demand
Constantly monitors GPU activity, dynamically adjusting clocks and voltage based on user scenario
Clock and memory speed throttling
Voltage switching
Dynamic clock gating
Central thermal management – on-chip sensor monitors GPU temperature and triggers thermal actions as required
ATI CrossFireX™ Multi-GPU Technology
Scale up rendering performance and image quality with two, three, or four GPUs
Integrated compositing engine
High performance dual channel bridge interconnect
Dual channel interconnect is not required for ATI CrossFire, and may not be included in all product configurations
Some custom resolutions require user configuration
HDCP support for playback of protected content requires connection to a HDCP capable display
System Requirement:
PCI Express based PC is required with one X16 lane graphic slot available on the motherboard.
1GB or greater system memory for better performance.
450Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express power connector recommended.
For ATI CrossfireX: 550 watt power supply or greater with two 6-pin connectors.
Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://ati.amd.com/certifiedPSU for a list of Certified products
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive.
DVD playback requires DVD driver
Blu-ray/HD DVD playback requires Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive and playback software.
For a complete ATI CrossFireX™ system, a second ATI Radeon™ HD 3850 graphics card, an ATI CrossFireX Ready motherboard and one ATI CrossFireX Bridge Interconnect cable per board are required.
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As much as I dislike ATi's software I'm kinda looking forward to this card (ugh!)
Why oh why did Nvidia abandon us? 
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Ok I will, er I did. I ordered the Saphire tech, ATi HD 3850, 512 meg DDR3 with FAN.
Once again the only single slot 512meg card I could find available here locally.
Now that I've ordered it I bet one with DDR4 comes out in a month lol
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I can not get Steam to install on my Green Machine. I get an error. Which sucks 'cause I bought Counter Strike Source 6 month's ago and can't even play it.
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I can't even get it to run, I reinstalled it 3 times last night. Something about a missing .DLL or some nonsense.
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Yeah I've been firing the Googling gun. From what I have read steam makes really crappy software.
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | Ok I will, er I did. I ordered the Saphire tech, ATi HD 3850, 512 meg DDR3 with FAN.
Once again the only single slot 512meg card I could find available here locally.
Now that I've ordered it I bet one with DDR4 comes out in a month lol |
That'd be the 3870, which is available at NewEgg, too.
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| WanMan wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | Ok I will, er I did. I ordered the Saphire tech, ATi HD 3850, 512 meg DDR3 with FAN.
Once again the only single slot 512meg card I could find available here locally.
Now that I've ordered it I bet one with DDR4 comes out in a month lol |
That'd be the 3870, which is available at NewEgg, too. |
Yep but new egg doesn't ship to Canada and the 3870's are slot hogs, they take two slots. I don't have the room.
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You can't handle the room! Seriously, while I love the paint job you have done on the case I think its about time reconsider. So, what did you pay for the 3850?
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| WanMan wrote: | | You can't handle the room! Seriously, while I love the paint job you have done on the case I think its about time reconsider. So, what did you pay for the 3850? |
Change the case?! Are you nuts?! No way. It's way too cool.
I think it's about $245 or so. I'll know at the end of the week when it comes in.
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