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Truly Bizarre Problem, M8110

 
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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Truly Bizarre Problem, M8110

Guys!


I have a Marquee 8110 dropped off here this morning, the video is whacky, like a photographic negative; here is no signal applied:









And this is the crosshatch:





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macgyver655



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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject:

I've seen that before on a direct view TV but it was some time ago. If I remember correctly it was a horz issue. But couldn't say for sure.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject:

Out of curiosity, were those pix taken after you checked the orientation of the connectors and reseated everything Tim?
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject:

So... What boards have you swapped out at this point? And does it stilll do it after each swap?

Athanasios

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject:

Guys!


I found the problem board, it was a modded VIM, not sure what part of the VIM at this time.


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macgyver655



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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject:

Cool. Just curious but what was your first guess, Tim?
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject:

I would have said HVPS G2s were way too high.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject:

If you's guys would stop modding marquees in what appears to be another failed attempt to surpass the image quality of a AmPro, things like this wouldn't happen. Laughing
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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
Cool. Just curious but what was your first guess, Tim?



This machine was on a ceiling a few miles from my house. I did try a control board at the site, but the homeowner decreed that we could not wear shoes on her finicky carpet, so I was damned if I was going to spend any time shoeless up on a ladder, my feet were killing me!

The dc voltages to the neckboards were all OK. I unplugged the VIM feed to the green neckboard and green went dark, so that pretty much left the VIM as the prime suspect. The second VIM blown like this in two months; the other one intermits for some reason, both were CS modded.


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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject:

Tim in Phoenix wrote:
macgyver655 wrote:
Cool. Just curious but what was your first guess, Tim?



This machine was on a ceiling a few miles from my house. I did try a control board at the site, but the homeowner decreed that we could not wear shoes on her finicky carpet, so I was damned if I was going to spend any time shoeless up on a ladder, my feet were killing me!


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You should have worn slippers Wink
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject:

So the problem was caused by a 'mod'ern housewife? Rolling Eyes
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject:

Tim in Phoenix wrote:
macgyver655 wrote:
Cool. Just curious but what was your first guess, Tim?



This machine was on a ceiling a few miles from my house. I did try a control board at the site, but the homeowner decreed that we could not wear shoes on her finicky carpet, so I was damned if I was going to spend any time shoeless up on a ladder, my feet were killing me!

The dc voltages to the neckboards were all OK. I unplugged the VIM feed to the green neckboard and green went dark, so that pretty much left the VIM as the prime suspect. The second VIM blown like this in two months; the other one intermits for some reason, both were CS modded.


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What is CS modded?

From looking at the pics I wonder if the analog switch for internal/external video is the culprit, not switching to the correct video or its stuck in a partial open closed state?

Athanasios

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject:

Tim, Check that protection (fusible smd) resistor is ok for -15v line on vim. I had once shortet 100nF smd cap on vim and that cap burned that resistor, symptoms were similar, projector runned at full (over normal levels) contrast. Strange thing was that marquee did not shutted down, it didīnt even turned off by remote so i pulled P14 connector and after then powered it down by taking power lead off.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject:

Zebu Fellenz wrote:
Tim in Phoenix wrote:
macgyver655 wrote:
Cool. Just curious but what was your first guess, Tim?



This machine was on a ceiling a few miles from my house. I did try a control board at the site, but the homeowner decreed that we could not wear shoes on her finicky carpet, so I was damned if I was going to spend any time shoeless up on a ladder, my feet were killing me!


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You should have worn slippers Wink


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