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AnalogRocks
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Nice Chip, guess this fixes you long cable drive issue?
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Phil Smith
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | ISS card
HD fury
MP5
Gamma
If it all works I'm jealous. My Moome ISS card is a POS. |
So is Mark right?
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stefuel
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| Phil Smith wrote: | | Mark_A_W wrote: | ISS card
HD fury
MP5
Gamma
If it all works I'm jealous. My Moome ISS card is a POS. |
So is Mark right? |
Nope...
1. Stock NEC ISS RGBHV input card
2. HD Fury
3. MP-1
4. The fourth part you see there is not a gamma circuit. It's the power supply for the MP-1
I failed. I'm not sure what went wrong. I got a flash of image, then nothing not even sync. I pre-configured the MP-1 for maximum boost. I think the ISS input card didn't like the additional boost. I rechecked the output card and the fury. Both are still funtioning so something in the input card failed. I'll have to build another one with the MP-1 set for unity gain.
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tse
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At least it wasn't an ultra fail......
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Mark_A_W
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Chip
I found that the Moome cards (ISS and DVI) were way too hot. This causes bad focus/blooming, and possibly clipping.
Despite all the hype to the contrary, I would absolutely stick to the 0.7vp-p specs. Maybe Marquees like it hotter (Ampros?), but that is a design flaw IMO. My NEC projector and especially my Sony 24" monitor DO NOT like it hot. 
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stefuel
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Definitly not "ultra fail" although I do feel violated right now
I am going through a awfull lot of trouble to make something work at the wrong end of the chain. All along the Fury was advertised to be connected at the display end. I was hoping to avoid that as I only have one input on the 4600 and I still have analog video devices in my system. So my choices are,
1. Make this work
2. Buy a Moome ISS HDMI input card.
3. Find or build a RGB2 board for the 4600 and run a 30 foot HDMI cable to the PJ.
Like I said earlier, the Fury works perfectly as long as it's mounted at the PJ. Why it won't pass 1080P RGB through the ISS is a mystery to me.
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stefuel
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | Chip
I found that the Moome cards (ISS and DVI) were way too hot. This causes bad focus/blooming, and possibly clipping.
Despite all the hype to the contrary, I would absolutely stick to the 0.7vp-p specs. Maybe Marquees like it hotter (Ampros?), but that is a design flaw IMO. My NEC projector and especially my Sony 24" monitor DO NOT like it hot. |
Marquee's and AmPro's seem to thrive on a hotter signal. I've never owned a Marquee but many have made that claim.
Both my 4600HD and 3600HD get wet in the panties over a hotter signal. I can see that Heywoods is right on the edge of being to hot for them though, but I like it that way.
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stefuel
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And for our next contestant??? It's missing 5 parts to finish up (4 relays and one mosfet). There's only a couple that will recognize what it is. It is a exact clone in every way and considered somewhat of a missing link.
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AnalogRocks
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| stefuel wrote: | | And for our next contestant??? It's missing 5 parts to finish up (4 relays and one mosfet). There's only a couple that will recognize what it is. It is a exact clone in every way and considered somewhat of a missing link. |
Ampro 2nd RGB input card?
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stefuel
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What was the clue?
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tse
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Didja figure how you are going to get V Sync into the projector?
Scott
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AnalogRocks
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| stefuel wrote: | | What was the clue? |
<age16 on>
Dude, I own a 4000, the worst Ampro on the planet. I have spent more hours staring into that projector than enuff. I reconized the PB board connector.</16>
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| tse wrote: | Didja figure how you are going to get V Sync into the projector?
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RGBS?
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stefuel
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| tse wrote: | Didja figure how you are going to get V Sync into the projector?
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Yep, simple. Use rgb2 for std def and combine sync within the ISS switcher. There is a switch on the RGBHV out on the switcher that allows you to combine sync. Use RGB1 for HDTV and Blue Ray by sending V sync to the V sync connector on the mother board via the vertical drive input panel.
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I'm pretty sure I've got one of those second input cards for an Ampro, but the last time I mentioned it, no one had any interest in it...
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AnalogRocks
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I remember the thread where you guy's were going to make some of these. Papalek was in on it too. What ever happened with that?
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Yes I was Analog. I sent chip mine so he could try to clone it.
Sorry for not getting back to you chip about my board numbers but I have been real busy lately and have not opened it up to check. The other one that I have is board number 65369 REV X with a part number 69448. but that is not the one in the 4600 and I am not sure if it is the same.
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stefuel
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E.B. I don't recal anyone offering one up. I'm sure I would have bought it.
Anie, The master plan was not to produce the cards, at least not as RGB2 cards. That was the time of the Evil Twin and at the very beginning of the HDMI/DVI to rgb coverters. What I was trying to do was to incoporate the circuit onto the RGB2 board and create a direct digital input for a X600 projector. I was also planning to do a HD SDI input board using Caspers design which never surfaced. Pappy loaned me a board so that I could take measurments and get a visual. The boards were never built because I couldn't find the relays as they were no longer produced. I recently found a electronics co that sells overstock and discontinued items that has 100 of them. So here we are.
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| stefuel wrote: | E.B. I don't recal anyone offering one up. I'm sure I would have bought it.
Anie, The master plan was not to produce the cards, at least not as RGB2 cards. That was the time of the Evil Twin and at the very beginning of the HDMI/DVI to rgb coverters. What I was trying to do was to incoporate the circuit onto the RGB2 board and create a direct digital input for a X600 projector. I was also planning to do a HD SDI input board using Caspers design which never surfaced. Pappy loaned me a board so that I could take measurments and get a visual. The boards were never built because I couldn't find the relays as they were no longer produced. I recently found a electronics co that sells overstock and discontinued items that has 100 of them. So here we are. |
Ahhhh IC, (pun) are you just waiting on the relay's then?
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Not anymore he's not I found work-alikes (without the half-billion cycle "extended" life guarantee) at Digikey. Clarence... google boy: Eat your heart out!
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