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120mm belly fan replacememt???

 
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stefuel



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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: 120mm belly fan replacememt???

I know you'll find this hard to believe but I'm finally having a problem with my 4600HD. It's been running for so long that I wore out the bearings in one of the belly fans. Laughing Anyway, I'm looking for replacement recommendations. It's a 120mm fan, I'll need two. I'm looking for quiet, moves alot of air and reliable. Which will last longer, sleeve or ball bearing. Thanks,

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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject:

I have these, move lots of air , I actually slowed them down to make them even more quiet.

Silent Cat fan



Specifications: Product Name: Silent CAT. Fan Speed: 1600 ±10% RPM. P/N: A2329. Max. Air Flow: 62.2 CFM. Frame Color: White. Max. Air Pressure: 2.13mm H2O. Fan Dimension: 120 x 120 x 25 mm. Noise: 16dBA. Rated Voltage: 12 V. Bearing Type: Sleeve. Started Voltage: 9 V 10 V Max. Life Expectation: 30,000 hrs. Rated Current: 0.30A. Connector: 3 pin. Power Input: 3.60W.

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HK-Steve



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TV/Projector: Marquee 9500, Epson 8100

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject:

Chip,
What are the specs or model number of the original fan??
Are they NMB's??



Athanasios,
Be careful with those fans installed, you will have less air flow than the original NMB's as you reduced the speed,
Be carefull you don't cook your HDM and FCM, not also to forget those VNB's.

My Marquee has 4x 120mm fans in the belly,
Arctic cooling model, put out 56.3cfm @ 1500RPM, total of 225.2cfm,
the original NMB's 59cfm, Total of 177cfm.

I originally had silenX fans, 4x installed, but I was not happy with the mechanical noise they made when mounted horizontally, vertical they are fine,

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/fans2.php?idx=108&data=2&disc=



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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject:

I Think they have been fine i did a rudimentary test before I sealed it all up. I first taped some pieces of paper on one end to each of the HDM and FCM so the
one end was covering the Holes in the top cover. I then turned on the projector and measured how far up each piece of paper was raised at the end not taped down. I then put in the new fans and did the same, and changed a resistor on the step down power supply to get the same flow, just a 1/8 inch more paper movement to make sure. has been working great so far. I also did the same at the tube ends.

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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject:

some links that might help Smile

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page1.html

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article739-page1.html

if price is no matter it seems that noctuala would be the best

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Tom.W



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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject:

Another good site...

http://www.cpemma.co.uk/

Hope you continue to post here Steve !
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject:

Now that is an interesting way to test air flow, well done.

I use an air flow meter, which I picked up for about $80 about 6 months ago.


Now, back to playing around with my Marquee.

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject:

HK-Steve wrote:
Now that is an interesting way to test air flow, well done.

I use an air flow meter, which I picked up for about $80 about 6 months ago.


Now, back to playing around with my Marquee.

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Steve


Yeah i wanted to make sure it would push enough air, I was thinking about this a lot so one day while i was driving i passed the local small plane airport near my house and i saw the wind vane move back and forth and at the same time a Tractor trailer was in front of me with no trailer and as he took off i saw the exhaust flaps pop up as he took off and the two things made me say Ah HA!!!!

went home and tried it out and it worked.


Nice to see you posting again Steve !

Athanasios

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject:

Bearing question...Which type of bearing is better for a belly fan (horizontal) configuration, sleeve or ball? I noticed in my old rack that had a fan on top as well as fans on the front, that the top fan (horizontal) would fail much faster than the front fans (vertical). I don't remember if they were sleeve or ball.
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jkruger



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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject:

How about a magnetic floating bearing type fan?
http://www.directron.com/uc12eb.html
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Nashou66



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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject:

jkruger wrote:
How about a magnetic floating bearing type fan?
http://www.directron.com/uc12eb.html


I used those on my LVPS for the Marquee but you have to shave them down to fit. Not enough airflow for a marquee bellyfans unless you use 4, not sure about the ampros requirement and i wasnt sure about any extra magnetic field effect to the tubes.

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