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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: OT: WTB tiny VGA CRT monitors 6" |
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Do any of you guy's know of a place where I can get small VGA monitor's? A friend of mine is making an imitation lugable computer like those from the '80's and need's a small VGA monitor. With or without touchscreen.
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outwest
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 212 Location: Honolulu
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Wow! Interesting. I am sorry that my answer to your question is no. I don't know where you could buy such a thing.
Your post just made me think back to the first computer that I owned. It was a Compaq portable. It was the size of a small suitcase, 8086, 1 meg of memory (LOADHI) and two 360K floppies. I bought a 10 meg Plus Hardcard for it. The hardcard was a bit over $600. The monitor was CRT. I think it was 5" and it was green monochrome. After several years of regular use, I upgraded to the Compaq Portable II. It was a 286 and I was amazed at how fast it was.
For a time, "lunchbox" format computers were popular. I wonder if some of these are on e-Bay now. I was thinking that some non-working ones might be cannibalized for the monitors. Now that I think about it, I guess that most of the "lunchbox" computers were LCD or plasma. I have seen small color VGA LCD's advertised in electronics magazines.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Actually he'd rather have a green monochrome screen BUT those were TTL or propriatary interface and all he has is VGA ans S-video out.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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The Apple dealer I used to work at when I was in high school sold KayPro luggable computers. Looked just like this one:
The ebay seller says it's 1982 vintage, which would have been a touch early for me to have been working at the computer dealer, but it sure looks right. Check out the asking price on this machine, though:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300039229895
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outwest
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 212 Location: Honolulu
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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AR, get some sleep!!
It is about 20:30 here. It must be 2:30 where you are.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | The Apple dealer I used to work at when I was in high school sold KayPro luggable computers. Looked just like this one:
The ebay seller says it's 1982 vintage, which would have been a touch early for me to have been working at the computer dealer, but it sure looks right. Check out the asking price on this machine, though:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300039229895
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That's some funny assed sh*t. $25 000. Man I must have millions in my storage then.
It's now 2:48, don't try and stop me I'm going to sleep ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Only thing I can think of is the small multi-head broadcast monitors, like eBay 230240292848
Don't know if they'll handle VGA resolution, tho.
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jkruger
Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA
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In just sold my old Seequa Chameleon last month.... "snif" but I still have two Kaypros left in the pile. Andy would be mad if I sold them.
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Clarence
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 3827 Location: Smith Mtn Lake, VA
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| Heywood Jablome wrote: | Only thing I can think of is the small multi-head broadcast monitors, like eBay 230240292848
Don't know if they'll handle VGA resolution, tho. | I thought of those too but they all have composite connectors, so you'd need a VGA->video adapter.
The other thing was server rack monitors, but they all seem to be LCD and 14"+. I don't recall having a small 6"-9" VGA rack monitor, we usually just put a 14" monitor sitting on the rack, using the server as a shelf.
I think your easiest emulation might be a car-based VGA LCD display... something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130212191238
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dculberson
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 211 Location: Columbus, OH
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That is just stupid. There's probably ten thousand of those things still floating around in the US alone. They were far from uncommon when new.
To AR's question: I know small VGA-capable CRT monitors exist, but I don't know where to get them. I've even seen small grayscale ones, but probably not as small as 6".. Some high end Sony broadcast monitors would sync to 31.5khz which is enough for 640x480. I had a 19" one, years upon years ago. Maybe some of the 5" - 6" ones will. Unfortunately the small ones still fetch real money - sometimes like $300!
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Clarence
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perisoft
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7-8" LCDs are a dime a dozen; they get sold by the boatload for custom car audio stuff. Maybe 150 to 200 bucks.
It's no CRT, though - but you could always write some software to put some glare on and do a nice gray-brown background wash like the old monitors had.
MAME actually has an incredibly good emulator for crappy RGB monitors that were used in arcade games - it pumps everything through a map of the phosphor pattern (line, dot, etc) used on the actual arcade machine. When you use it on a real CRT monitor (it looks odd on an LCD, because it's too sharp even with the filter) it looks eerily correct. It'd be great to write a little directX wrapper for that and sneak it onto your buddy's CRT projector so it looked like it got replaced with some giant old arcade monitor...
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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Thanks for the link's guy's. I did find the model number for a couple produced by KME
5" CRT KME PN# 20C05A32HX
12Vdc/31.5kHz/VGA/P31 phosphor
and the 7" version same spec's
PN# 20C07A32HX
Can't find any yet though.
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macgyver655
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Here's it's LCD counterpart:
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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Thanks Mac! I know he doesn't want to run LCD and I don't blame him
I found a couple of those PDF's on a german site lastnight.
Didn't VDC own/partner with a company that makes small CRT monitor's ( flight instruments maybe? )
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Thanks Clarence.
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Fujifrontier
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i wonder if a small colour viewfinder CRT could be forced to go bright enough to create a 5-6 inch picture
imagine, a miniature projection set
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| Fujifrontier wrote: | i wonder if a small colour viewfinder CRT could be forced to go bright enough to create a 5-6 inch picture
imagine, a miniature projection set |
I've done that with my Betacam ED, in the wood's on a piece of paper. Just to show everyone what I just shot.
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