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Mr. Green




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PostLink    Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:01 am    Post subject: no video Reply with quote


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My 7 yr old desktop had a video card (nvidia 8400gs) that died so I removed it as I only use that computer for surfing the web and this site. It has the on board video card that is just fine for that. Well, now after 5 years of working great that appears to have flaked out. I only care about the family photos and videos that might not be backed up (yeah yeah, I'm that effing lazy).

Sooooo, can I just take the Hard Drive out and switch it to slave and get the files on the laptop or can I get a $30 8400gs as it already has drivers for it and plug and play? Despite it currently set to the on board video?

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: no video Reply with quote

Mr. Green wrote:
My 7 yr old desktop had a video card (nvidia 8400gs) that died so I removed it as I only use that computer for surfing the web and this site. It has the on board video card that is just fine for that. Well, now after 5 years of working great that appears to have flaked out. I only care about the family photos and videos that might not be backed up (yeah yeah, I'm that effing lazy).

Sooooo, can I just take the Hard Drive out and switch it to slave and get the files on the laptop or can I get a $30 8400gs as it already has drivers for it and plug and play? Despite it currently set to the on board video?


Hard drive question first, if it is an IDE drive then yes set to slave, if SATA just plug in. Well neither option will work to connect to a laptop.

Motherboard question, how do you know it is the video chip that has failed? Maybe it is not booting up at all. Check the onboard battery for +3v, Remove hard drive and see if bios screen comes up, disconnect DVD drive and try again, remove a ram stick and try if it has 2. If only 1 ram try spare if you have one. Are you sure the monitor is working?

If motherboard is not working then a new video card will not help.
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Mr. Green




Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Calgary

TV/Projector: Marquee 9501LC / NEC 9PG+


PostLink    Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically if I turn monitor off and on I can see desktop long enough to see mouse cursor move across screen about 1/4 way before image goes blank. Never considered monitor. Freaking love that thing. It's an HP w2207h. It's big (21-23" can't remember) and has the best image quality I've ever had on a monitor. Still that versus a hardware fail... I'll get over it. I guess most TV's and projectors have VGA in "dsub". I'll have to try that too. Thanks for the input, I'll have to see what I have that has vga in. I think there's a 720p lcd tv in bsmt that has it for sure.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a boot up with the...is it F8 key? It almost sounds like the PC is sending the wrong resolution to the monitor. Then at shut down it may be sending something it can handle.
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Mr. Green




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PostLink    Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to take a bit of time to work it out, but I'll post when that happens. the issue happened like 2 weeks ago and I've finally had time (1AM) to post again about this.
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CasetheCorvetteman




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PostLink    Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is sending an unsupported resolution you should still see the boot up screens in the BIOS, if you dont, then id say the monitor is dead, based on what you say about turning it off and back on showing you a brief image.

If that machine has a speaker in it and you hear one short beep on boot, then the video output should be working, if it was RAM or video card you should hear constant beeps and it wont load at all.

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Mr. Green




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PostLink    Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would it suddenly start sending an unsupported resolution?

I'll drag it down to the basement and hook it up to the LCD tv down there. It should show something.

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a sec...when you have it on put a flash light to the monitor and see if it's your backlight that has died.
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Mr. Green




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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it's on but blank what will a flashlight show? I can try right now. I've never heard of this so don't know what I'm looking for.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will see the image .

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the backlight isnt working shining a light in from the front and looking real close may show an image, it really sound alot like a monitor failure to me.
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Mr. Green




Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Calgary

TV/Projector: Marquee 9501LC / NEC 9PG+


PostLink    Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok that's interesting. I listened to it carefully, there's some electric almost static noises each time something was displayed then no image after windows icon at boot up. Grabbed a bright flashlight and yup, the monitor is the problem. I can see the desktop, but can't find the mouse cursor. At least it's not the cpu.

Is there any way to repair this cheaply or do I need to just get another monitor?

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Curt Palme
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be bad caps on the power supply board, very common on the monitors, or the backlight could be toast, in which case it's a throwaway.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What brand/model is the monitor? As curt said its either a capacitor issue, or the inverter or backlights have died. a backlight is a pain in the ass to replace so again as Curt said, it wouldn't be worth repairing (unless this is a commercial grade display?)
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